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FitFighter
04-29-2008, 11:36 PM
I read everyone's journals and you all train way more than I do. I've struggled with overtraining for a while now. I took a position as manager of my group last year and trained for a competition during the summer. I had to travel to Vegas and Florida for work and the stress of the travel, the new job and the prep for my show just killed me. I took a Vac over Christmas and drove down to Florida and unfortunately the stress of the trip caused me to stay in bed the whole week and not on the beach. I cannot live my life like this anymore. I've significantly decreased my training and am taking time off, but I still want to exercise - even if its just walking. I have all the symptoms of overtraining, elevated HR, insomnia, GI disturbance, fatigue, muscle soreness, anxiety, depression. Its the fatigue and then sleepless nights I cannot handle. Anyone have any experience with this? I need my life back :(

Shelly
04-30-2008, 12:29 AM
I think your symptoms may be caused my more than overtraining babe.

I train hard 3 days a week, and am in the gym the other 3-4 days as well, and i must say as long as i sleep and eat correctly, i havent ever overrtrained. You need to make sure first and foremost you FUEL your body properly..nutrition is KEY.... and sexondly REST is super duper important. you grow while you sleep and during yoru downtime...so you need to take that time seriously...

whenh i start to feel over worked i take a week off from everything...andf it usually does the trick.

hope this helps:) and glad you joined here!

SBT
04-30-2008, 12:35 AM
I agree with Shel!!!

Actually the only time i start to feel lagging or over trained as well, is also when my sleep suffers. But other then that I am usually okay... there are of course some weeks that go by that I am more tired then others but I take it easier those weeks too.

fitmomma3
04-30-2008, 12:44 AM
I have def OVERTRAINED, its actually quite easy to do if you have a lot on your plate AND train a ton too. Even with proper nutrition your immune system and body can just get down. I had times where I was just CONSTANTLY sore, poor recovery... I couldn't sleep EVER! And never fail EVER SINGLE PREP I would end up with a Sinus infection and sick as a dog for at least a week!

The best advice I can give is EMBRACE your off season with all your heart!! Train hard but only three four days MAX, limit cardio, ease up on strict dieting and REST, relax and ENJOY LIFE! Schedule OFF WEEKS at the gym... in the program I was doing we call them "cruise weeks" 7-10 days of no lifting, at first its hard but your body needs it. Make your offseasons last months at a time, not just 6 - 10 weeks here and there. I am guilty of this too but we all want to be in AWESOME shape year round, and maybe even do four five six shows a year... some people's bodies can handle that...but MOST IMO CANNOT. It's not healthy to be show ready year round... and those that can handle it may be pros who do this for a living...or maybe they have very easy non stressful jobs, or not a ton of responsibility, so they can focus on not over training and A LOT of rest year round but most can't. Most of us crunch to be in the gym two/three hours a day and this is NOT HEALTHY to run ragged 24/7.

Glutamine, and Vit C, plenty of water, sun AND 8 hours of sleep are one of the best immune system remedy cocktails...make this your FRIEND...

Take a break, recoup and take it slow... take some time to ease your mind and I hope you are feeling back to normal soon!

Just need to add ever since I have made SLEEP a PRIORITY not an option I def have reaped the benefits!

Shelly
04-30-2008, 02:06 PM
Have you gone for a physical recently? just to make sure everyting else is in order?

IslandGirl
04-30-2008, 02:11 PM
Have you gone for a physical recently? just to make sure everyting else is in order?

I was going to suggest this as well.

Not sure how old you are, but have you recently had a full blood panel done to make sure all of your levels are running on par?

Lots of great advice given ^^^as well.


btw, awesome to have you here!

FitFighter
04-30-2008, 04:16 PM
Yes, actually I had a full blood panel done right after Christmas and all my labs came back normal- even though I haven't had a period in 5 years (I am 27 years old) so something must be wrong. And trust me, I am not underweight- I am actually quite chubby right now and the heaviest I've ever been my whole life. I have an elevated heart rate whenever I get stressed or do not get enough sleep or lift hard. Then, I am in bed with fatigue for days. But I try to sleep b/c I am sooo tired, but my heart is just pounding and pounding and I feel trembling inside. I have severe stomach problems too. Its ruining my life and my fiance complains I am always soo tired that I cannot do anything anymore. I'm grumpy more than I am happy. I do eat right, take lots of vitamins- no stimulants, low caffeine, try to sleep as much as possible and decreased my training, but its still soo hard. I thought I had adrenal fatigue, but went to an endo and he ruled that out b/c he said my potassium would be high. So, from what I've read, its overtraining, but I've never trained as hard or for as long as you all. I am taking a rest week. Maybe just some light walking and then I have a gymnastics class on Sat- but NO LIFTING all week. We'll see how it goes. I just can't recall the last time I woke up refreshed and I feel I've been overtraining for sooo long. I've had racing heart and heart papitations and interrupted sleep for at least 2 years now. Something is wrong, but all the docs tell me I am OK. I've even had an EKG for the heart thing.

dvsness
04-30-2008, 04:40 PM
Not having a period for 5 years is not normal!!!! I suggest you see a specialist of some kind.

Shelly
04-30-2008, 05:15 PM
i agree- your symptoms appear to be MORE than just about overtraining. your fatigue sounds alarming. I would seek a speacialist as well girl....


keep us posted!

Betsy
04-30-2008, 05:47 PM
I would think being in a routine and workout scheudle would allow your body to fall into a normal routine.. and therefore make you feel BETTER.. our bodies WANT routine.. at least mine does!

I agree with the other ladies that there may be some other underlying issues here that you should look into! GOOD LUCK!

littled
04-30-2008, 06:32 PM
I'm no doctor, but I would almost bet that you have a thyroid problem...simply because I experienced the same thing myself several years ago. Both underactive and overactive thyroid runs in my family, and I had those symptoms for a really long time, and even though I got tested on a regular basis, it would never show up on the results.
My heart rate got so high one time I had to go to emergency, and only then, by some stroke of luck, did it finally show up and I was able to get treated.

Neely
04-30-2008, 06:45 PM
I'm no doctor, but I would almost bet that you have a thyroid problem...simply because I experienced the same thing myself several years ago. Both underactive and overactive thyroid runs in my family, and I had those symptoms for a really long time, and even though I got tested on a regular basis, it would never show up on the results.
My heart rate got so high one time I had to go to emergency, and only then, by some stroke of luck, did it finally show up and I was able to get treated.

^^ I was gonna say the same thing about getting the thyroid checked.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here (since I don't know a ton about hypo and hyperthyroidism) but I've hears other gals talk about it and there's something I recall about making sure that the doc tests for FREE t3 and t4 levels...? I could swear that others have mentioned going in for thyroid tests and their levels were coming up normal, but the docs weren't testing 'free' levels. It's all confusing to me lol. So maybe you can help clear that up since you've been through it.

Shelly
04-30-2008, 07:01 PM
^^ I was gonna say the same thing about getting the thyroid checked.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here (since I don't know a ton about hypo and hyperthyroidism) but I've hears other gals talk about it and there's something I recall about making sure that the doc tests for FREE t3 and t4 levels...? I could swear that others have mentioned going in for thyroid tests and their levels were coming up normal, but the docs weren't testing 'free' levels. It's all confusing to me lol. So maybe you can help clear that up since you've been through it.

yes T3 and T4 levels. my girlfriend that actually has been dieting for 9 weeks JUST found out NOW that she has a thyroid problem.. she has been BUSTING ASS with NO RESULTS... so Mike Davies told her to go get chekced out immediately and she has a hypothyroid problem...


so id say defintiely get your thyroid tested.

littled
04-30-2008, 07:05 PM
Yep there are tests in addition to the "Normal levels" I think they are called FT4 and FT3.
Fitfighter, you almost sound like a poster child for a thyroid problem. I would insist on more testing, done on a frequent basis.

FitFighter
04-30-2008, 07:43 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses! Now, do I have underactive or overactive thyroid or neither :nuts: I thought maybe I was overactive with the racing heart and huge appetite I have, but I am gaining weight. My last prep- I was only able to lose 5 lbs with dieting and cardio. I forgot to mention I also have night sweats, no sex drive, diarrhea, extreme thrist, heavy legs feeling- where I am sooo tired and it feels like me arms and legs weigh a ton. Thanks for all the replies again :o

littled
04-30-2008, 08:36 PM
The only way to know for sure which one you may have is to get tested. It's not uncommon to have symptoms of BOTH hypo and hyper. I could barely stay awake to drive, yet my pulse was always racing and I felt short of breath. Weird, I know....
Tell me, do you ever have a hard time swallowing? Do your eyes get sensitive to sun?

fitmomma3
04-30-2008, 08:40 PM
Yes and for any future ref overtraining should be able to be combated with lots of rest a week or so... if the feelings don't subside after that, you can no longer attribute it to just overtraining IMO. DEF get checked out intensely do not take nothings wrong for an answer... I hope you are feeling better soon or at least find out what the problem stems so you can address it... keep us all updated.

frannyfran
04-30-2008, 09:05 PM
Yikes!! I'd def say get a second opinion there is something else at work here. I hope everything clears itself up for you.

Kim McGuire
05-01-2008, 12:27 PM
Not to be harsh, but you should really see a doctor. from what you've described and by the way you say you have never trained the way most of us do, my guess is you aren't training enough, and aren't any where near overtraining.

SEE A DOCTOR! that is the only way to know if you have thyroid issues. that would be my first clue, if you have pounding heart, fast heart rate, you may want to be referred to a cardiologist to run tests as well. you only have one ticker and it is possible to have cardiac issues even at your age.

the possibilities of what's wrong with you could be endless but until you go to a doc and get tested, including a new blood panel, you won't know what's wrong and worse, you will only keep yourself from getting well.

FitFighter
05-01-2008, 10:34 PM
Thanks for the advice everyone. I do have a doc appointment with another new doctor but not until June 9th (the soonest I could get). The reason I thought overtraining and not a thyroid problem is because my symptoms are aggrivated when I train. If I lift chest for example, I am shakey and my heart is racing the rest of the day. If I do not get a good night's sleep- which is almost never, the next day, my heart is still racing, I get diarrhea, frequent upper respiratory infections, etc, etc.

Also about my period, at first I thought it was because I worked out so much. Excercise induced ammenorrhea- I know that it's very common in women who train so much and I honestly think a lot of girls out there have the same problem. Is that true- unless you are brith control. But now that I've way cut back on my training and still no period, whats up with that? Oh and yes, I've had an EKG to check my heart and ultrasounds of my chest and ovaries to make sure everything was ok. So far nothing.......

Shelly
05-02-2008, 12:37 AM
good luck girl and keep us posted. in the meantime just take it easy on yourself and rest....