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Siouxcountry
03-11-2008, 09:38 PM
Was she over looked, penalized for being to hard, or to big?

12th place at the 2008 Ms Figure International... LINK (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=11563&eventcode=1216)

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/NEW/jul4.jpg

Siouxcountry
03-11-2008, 09:45 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/NEW/ju5.jpg

LINK (http://www.hardfitness.com/competitions/arnold2008/profigure/julianamalacarne/twopiece/index.html)

Shelly
03-11-2008, 09:45 PM
well i have heard that she ALWAYS is told she is wayyy to hard.... so i bet that is it.

HOWEVER,
i think she looks friggin ridiculously good...and her conditioning is on point!

KP DIVA
03-11-2008, 10:18 PM
I think she has an absolutely beautiful physique. I don't believe she was too hard...it's a nice healthy look in my opinion....she doesn't look any harder than Gina or Latisha has looked in past shows...This yr. was the softest I have ever seen Latisha and I've been following her career for years. I just prefer a more muscular look vs. a skinny look w/ a little bit a muscle. There needs to be a middle category in between figure and bodybuilding!! A category for girls who put on muscle relatively easy, who may not prefer the fbb physique and genetically has a hard time conforming to the figure physique also.

dallas3
03-11-2008, 10:19 PM
well i have heard that she ALWAYS is told she is wayyy to hard.... so i bet that is it.

HOWEVER,
i think she looks friggin ridiculously good...and her conditioning is on point!

Have to agree there, think I read somewhere she's had to work on toning down her legs in the past because of the different judging standards here in the states as opposed to overseas.

fitmomma3
03-11-2008, 10:31 PM
She is beautiful and I love her physique! I don't think its necessarily the amount of muscle, but the "blockyness" (is that a word) of how she carries it... its just her body type... maybe losing a bit will stream line her more... but then maybe that won't look right on her body (this is what makes figure tricky)... I do think she still looks wayyyyy better than 12th IMO

And did any one notice Latisha toned down her muscle a bit and it didn't really do well for her placing?

HDPhysiques-Joe
03-11-2008, 10:33 PM
Her placings have always been BS. She should be placed much higher. Gorgeous physique, exactly what figure SHOULD be.

On top of that, Juliana is an extremly nice and friendly person. And, while it's not perfect, she's learned English faster than anyone I've ever heard of!

KP DIVA
03-11-2008, 10:41 PM
She is beautiful and I love her physique! I don't think its necessarily the amount of muscle, but the "blockyness" (is that a word) of how she carries it... its just her body type... maybe losing a bit will stream line her more... but then maybe that won't look right on her body (this is what makes figure tricky)... I do think she still looks wayyyyy better than 12th IMO

And did any one notice Latisha toned down her muscle a bit and it didn't really do well for her placing?


I definitely noticed..I always call Latisha a lt. weight bb...she comes in very hard, but it looks good for her frame..but this was the smoothest I've ever seen...took her down to 8th place...she was 4th last yr.

anglicanbeachparty
03-11-2008, 10:51 PM
I don't have any word for Juliana's "look" in Columbus, except: Perfection!

*Bunny*
03-11-2008, 11:31 PM
well i have heard that she ALWAYS is told she is wayyy to hard.... so i bet that is it.

HOWEVER,
i think she looks friggin ridiculously good...and her conditioning is on point!

Im going to have to agree here. I think she looks stunning but for her size, she may appear more lt weight bb. How tall is she?

dvsness
03-11-2008, 11:40 PM
As someone who was at the show, Juliana did not look blocky at all, she looked tiny! She was the probably shortest one on the stage and was tight and compact. She looks so much bigger in the pics than she looks in a lineup.

KP DIVA
03-12-2008, 12:11 AM
As someone who was at the show, Juliana did not look blocky at all, she looked tiny! She was the probably shortest one on the stage and was tight and compact. She looks so much bigger in the pics than she looks in a lineup.

Really, I thought she was atleast 5'5 or taller.

Shelly
03-12-2008, 12:17 AM
She is beautiful and I love her physique! I don't think its necessarily the amount of muscle, but the "blockyness" (is that a word) of how she carries it... its just her body type... maybe losing a bit will stream line her more... but then maybe that won't look right on her body (this is what makes figure tricky)... I do think she still looks wayyyyy better than 12th IMO

And did any one notice Latisha toned down her muscle a bit and it didn't really do well for her placing?

not to thread jack... but mike was PISSED about latishas placing. he brought her in tighter and tinier than ever... and she got boobs <not that that is relevant> and did not place where i think she deserved to be!:mad:

jenscats5
03-12-2008, 01:24 AM
Great legs!!

cray17
03-12-2008, 03:32 AM
I don't get it myself either. She came in lighter than ever and she still placed low? But what can you expect. U.S. figure judges rarely give credit where credit is due, why start now? :rolleyes:

IslandGirl
03-12-2008, 03:41 AM
I agree Juliana has an darn amazing physique!

I have watched her compete here in Colorado and when she did not place where a few of us NPC judges thought she should've....we asked several IFBB judges...what was up with that? We're told that she is too muscular (esp. in the legs) and her back comes in real hard. Now this was last year and I have seen she has made some improvements in her upper body, but she still needs to streamline her lower body.

bree marsh
03-12-2008, 12:07 PM
i think she looks amazing also, i guess if i had to pick something for her to work on it would be "streamlining" like many have already said! she may still be a bit too "blocky" she definitely lost some muscle for this show...she is beautiful!

fitmomma3
03-12-2008, 12:24 PM
More pictures of her in the line-up... remember pictures are not the same as being there... V says she looked smaller on stage

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/l_5212437af5ebc6d3eab72a65496c54-1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/1pcJC-3.jpg

fitmomma3
03-12-2008, 12:28 PM
No matter what she has an OUTSTANDING PHYSIQUE... may be a bit hard for figure standards BUT I think she carries it beautifully AND MAN Look at those calves!!!!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/back2-2.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/onpcnation-1.jpg

These must be older pictures with less muscle... a "softer" look fits her as well...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/A-7.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/B-5.jpg

KP DIVA
03-12-2008, 12:34 PM
More pictures of her in the line-up... remember pictures are not the same as being there... V says she looked smaller on stage

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/l_5212437af5ebc6d3eab72a65496c54-1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/1pcJC-3.jpg
Thanks 4 more pics...her delts may be leaning towards being too big...but I think her quads are fine...but know way does she have a blocky look. Maybe I'm just biased.

Mats E.
03-12-2008, 04:54 PM
Really, I thought she was atleast 5'5 or taller.

She is around 5'1

And she is a lot smaller now than when she won the World Championships in 2005. She looked great then, but maybe a little bit too big. But, the way she looked at this show I think she should have been in the final.

Just compare her with the ones in the pics.. she is way ahead of those girls.

oreganoo
03-12-2008, 05:27 PM
i agree, she is very beautiful and has a great physique.
not to hard or to big in my own opinion

greetings

*Bunny*
03-12-2008, 05:28 PM
I agree Juliana has an darn amazing physique!

I have watched her compete here in Colorado and when she did not place where a few of us NPC judges thought she should've....we asked several IFBB judges...what was up with that? We're told that she is too muscular (esp. in the legs) and her back comes in real hard. Now this was last year and I have seen she has made some improvements in her upper body, but she still needs to streamline her lower body.
I am no where near being a judge but that is what I would guess they would say.

Wow I love her delts. :)

I looked at her previous comp pics on MD and she has improved her lower in the last few years for sure.

I would say she has a better physique IMO than a 12th placing. If she knows and realizes that, that's all that matters. I hope she isnt disappointed.

I was guessing she was under 5'3, thank you for posting the height.

Lynx
03-12-2008, 05:59 PM
I think she looks great!! Her legs might be on the big side for figure, but I still like 'em anyways!! :D

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 12:38 AM
She is around 5'1

And she is a lot smaller now than when she won the World Championships in 2005. She looked great then, but maybe a little bit too big. But, the way she looked at this show I think she should have been in the final.

Just compare her with the ones in the pics.. she is way ahead of those girls.

I agree...I would have had her 3rd!!!

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 12:43 AM
I am no where near being a judge but that is what I would guess they would say.

Wow I love her delts. :)

I looked at her previous comp pics on MD and she has improved her lower in the last few years for sure.

I would say she has a better physique IMO than a 12th placing. If she knows and realizes that, that's all that matters. I hope she isnt disappointed.

I was guessing she was under 5'3, thank you for posting the height.

I love her delts too!

Siouxcountry
03-13-2008, 01:23 AM
And she is a lot smaller now than when she won the World Championships in 2005.

:cool:

Cdiddy
03-13-2008, 01:59 AM
I love her delts too!

I agree!! I REALLY think she looks amazing! Over the past two years, I have become very disappointed in the judging of Figure. I would love to see a pic of Juliana and Gina to compare their sizes, etc. I know Gina is taller, but symmetrically--I think Juliana is just as good.

fitmomma3
03-13-2008, 02:08 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/B-6.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/A-8.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/comp12-1.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/back2-3.jpg

Cdiddy
03-13-2008, 02:14 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/B-6.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/A-8.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/comp12-1.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/back2-3.jpg

Thanks FM for posting the pics!! Yes..Juliana has more muscle--but I believe members of this forum agree that she should be at "least" in the Top 5. I think her legs/glutes development is "on-point"!!

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 02:15 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/B-6.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/A-8.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/comp12-1.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/villers5/back2-3.jpg

From the front Juliana gives Gina a run for her money IMO...from the back, I can see why they would place Gina a head of her...I think Juliana's back is a tad too hard for what the judges may be look'n for in figure.

frannyfran
03-13-2008, 02:28 AM
OMG look at her teeny tiny waist!!! I love her legs and her shoulders!! What do you guys mean when you say "streamline"....?

dvsness
03-13-2008, 02:41 AM
Where the hell do people get BLOCKY from that? :nuts:

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 02:44 AM
LOL!! That's the same thing I was wondering...blocky...where? I even like her back...just think it's not what they want 2c in figure.

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 02:47 AM
OMG look at her teeny tiny waist!!! I love her legs and her shoulders!! What do you guys mean when you say "streamline"....?

When the term "streamline" is used they're saying the physique is blocky or it could mean not enough symmetry (am I correct on that?)...but I don't think her's phyisque is blocky at all...but I think specifically for Juliana...when they say streamline, they're referencing that her legs are still a little too thick for figure.

HDPhysiques-Joe
03-13-2008, 08:07 AM
I'm just in shock that my boy Danny Ray actually took a bad photo for a change! (the underexposed shot of Gina, obviously). LOL

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm just in shock that my boy Danny Ray actually took a bad photo for a change! (the underexposed shot of Gina, obviously). LOL

LOL @ Joe. Hey....it happens right? You are funny!

dvsness
03-13-2008, 03:04 PM
LOL!! That's the same thing I was wondering...blocky...where? I even like her back...just think it's not what they want 2c in figure.

When I think blocky, I envision a wide waist.

Shelly
03-13-2008, 03:48 PM
so do i. i think no v taper......

not HER look-- doesn't seem blocky at all!

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 04:41 PM
When I think blocky, I envision a wide waist.

Yes..that's true too...and honestly Sonia A. looked a bit blocky in her 1pc...but I think it was more of the way her suit was cut, not her physique...b/c she looked a lot better in the 2pc.

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Yes..that's true too...and honestly Sonia A. looked a bit blocky in her 1pc...but I think it was more of the way her suit was cut, not her physique...b/c she looked a lot better in the 2pc.

Sonia was bloated.

*Bunny*
03-13-2008, 05:08 PM
so do i. i think no v taper......

not HER look-- doesn't seem blocky at all! Not that this matters but when I hear blocky I think of the shape of the muscles, ok think BB musculature. Smaller (in her case) compact full square-like if you will vs longer leaner more rounded softer etc.

Back in 05 I guess that is how it was explained to me at a GA figure Invite. The guy who helped explain physiques actually learned 'judging criteria' (and I use that term VERY loosely) so I am not sure if that is where the term came from?

I just dont think it was an insult to anyone's physique so Im throwing that out there.

*Bunny*
03-13-2008, 05:12 PM
Sonia was bloated. IG you are a judge of NPC events no?

Shelly
03-13-2008, 05:27 PM
Sonia was bloated.

yes she def was...her legs were soft and SUPER TINY. i saw her backstage and literally thought she had popsicle sticks!

no offense to her... oh and yes her back was watery as well.

fitmomma3
03-13-2008, 05:41 PM
I used the term "blocky' and no not it the wide waist way... I didn't mean to insult her physique... I meant it more like Bunny stated...she has full short "stockier" muscles... each group does not flow into the next like Gina's.
Jenny H herself said in the last few years she had changed her training (more plyos, sprints, etc) to have less blockiness of a bb and more of an "athletic look" I mean she still carries a lot of muscle but thats more along what I was referring to.

frannyfran
03-13-2008, 05:42 PM
When the term "streamline" is used they're saying the physique is blocky or it could mean not enough symmetry (am I correct on that?)...but I don't think her's phyisque is blocky at all...but I think specifically for Juliana...when they say streamline, they're referencing that her legs are still a little too thick for figure.

Ok gottcha thank you!!!

*Bunny*
03-13-2008, 05:50 PM
I meant it more like Bunny stated...
;)

Im on to you


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/pies11/psychiccat.jpg

dvsness
03-13-2008, 05:58 PM
yes she def was...her legs were soft and SUPER TINY. i saw her backstage and literally thought she had popsicle sticks!

no offense to her... oh and yes her back was watery as well.

She has always looked like that. Small legs and the 'Mexican butt'. Beautiful faces are useful.

fitmomma3
03-13-2008, 05:59 PM
LMAO! Thanks Bunny! That kitty is so cute is it crazy that all I think of when I see it is man I would have to vacuum like three times a day with all the hair LOL OCD much?

fitmomma3
03-13-2008, 06:00 PM
Sonia was bloated.I've seen her belly look all distended before too... You think it pre show loading or something?

DanielleA
03-13-2008, 06:03 PM
Juliana is very pretty and graces the stage. I was also there watching and IMO she looked wayyyy jacked next to all the other girls. Hopefully she can bring some of that muscle down (just as Gina has been doing lately) and get the top 5 placings she deserves!

Sonia ALWAYS looks bloated. anyone have any ideas why? I have heard "GH belly"...what are your opinions on that?

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:04 PM
yes she def was...her legs were soft and SUPER TINY. i saw her backstage and literally thought she had popsicle sticks!

no offense to her... oh and yes her back was watery as well.


Tara Scotti did a re-cap of her views of the pro figure...and she had Sonia at 10....she basically said the same thing about the legs.

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:05 PM
Juliana is very pretty and graces the stage. I was also there watching and IMO she looked wayyyy jacked next to all the other girls. Hopefully she can bring some of that muscle down (just as Gina has been doing lately) and get the top 5 placings she deserves!

Sonia ALWAYS looks bloated. anyone have any ideas why? I have heard "GH belly"...what are your opinions on that?

WOW..GH belly?? I'd have to say no....b/c look'n at those legs.... could that be true?

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:07 PM
I've seen her belly look all distended before too... You think it pre show loading or something?

I didn't think she was distended..I just thought it was more of her not really having any lats/v-taper so she looks straight up/down...but like I said, I thought she looked a lot better in her 2pc.

Shelly
03-13-2008, 06:07 PM
WOW..GH belly?? I'd have to say no....b/c look'n at those legs.... could that be true?

i think it could. she doesnt train her legs hard enuf.. period... she KNOWS thats her weakness....why the hell isnt she KILLING THEM!

i swear backstage her leg was the size of my ankle!

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:08 PM
She has always looked like that. Small legs and the 'Mexican butt'. Beautiful faces are useful.

Never heard that term...what exactly is a "mexican butt."

Shelly
03-13-2008, 06:09 PM
Never heard that term...what exactly is a "mexican butt."

she needs ABS!

DanielleA
03-13-2008, 06:10 PM
I didn't think she was distended..I just thought it was more of her not really having any lats/v-taper so she looks straight up/down...but like I said, I thought she looked a lot better in her 2pc.

She ALWAYS has distended lower abs. Her, and Jenny Lynn too.

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:10 PM
i think it could. she doesnt train her legs hard enuf.. period... she KNOWS thats her weakness....why the hell isnt she KILLING THEM!

i swear backstage her leg was the size of my ankle!

LOL!! You are hillarious.....the size of ankles!! Maybe she's doing too much cardio and the muscle she gains in her legs just burns really easy.

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:12 PM
She ALWAYS has distended lower abs. Her, and Jenny Lynn too.

Reallly..I need to look closer at the pics...and of course, the top photographers no the weaknesses, so they may take the pics at an angle to disguise it...B/C Jenny L. has been relatively unbeatable...so to hear she has distended lower abs is a new one for me.

KP DIVA
03-13-2008, 06:15 PM
she needs ABS!

oh ok...I am surprise Sonia has done as well as he has on the Pro circuit. Maybe it's more politics and how markable she is...b/c she is beautiful.

DanielleA
03-13-2008, 06:17 PM
oh ok...I am surprise Sonia has done as well as he has on the Pro circuit. Maybe it's more politics and how markable she is...b/c she is beautiful.

it's gotta be the face, bc there are so many better packages out there, physically

DanielleA
03-13-2008, 06:18 PM
Reallly..I need to look closer at the pics...and of course, the top photographers no the weaknesses, so they may take the pics at an angle to disguise it...B/C Jenny L. has been relatively unbeatable...so to hear she has distended lower abs is a new one for me.

Yeah girl take a look. I think this year's O they looked better than in 2006. Try to find those pics and see.

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 06:26 PM
IG you are a judge of NPC events no?

Yes.

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 06:35 PM
yes she def was...her legs were soft and SUPER TINY. i saw her backstage and literally thought she had popsicle sticks!

no offense to her... oh and yes her back was watery as well.

Sonia has very high calves...so it makes her legs appear very straight up and down.

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 06:43 PM
I've seen her belly look all distended before too... You think it pre show loading or something?

Not quite sure.

But from previous competitions she seems more prone to having that distended look. Although at the AC, it was alot more prominent that I have seen it before.

dvsness
03-13-2008, 07:42 PM
Never heard that term...what exactly is a "mexican butt."

Long, flatter booty, where the glute kind of melts into the ham.

Shelly
03-13-2008, 07:54 PM
Long, flatter booty, where the glute kind of melts into the ham.

melts like cheese?:D

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 07:56 PM
Long, flatter booty, where the glute kind of melts into the ham.

hahaha....never heard of that term before.

We should post up pictures of bootays and have Vanessa give us her names of all the different ones....

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 07:56 PM
melts like cheese?:D

OR melts like butta! :spit:

Shelly
03-13-2008, 07:58 PM
OR melts like butta! :spit:

lmao- im hungry i think;):cool::p

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 08:13 PM
lmao- im hungry i think;):cool::p

I'm hungry too and I just ate.

dvsness
03-13-2008, 08:36 PM
hahaha....never heard of that term before.

We should post up pictures of bootays and have Vanessa give us her names of all the different ones....

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn, we have booty for all occasions. :o

IslandGirl
03-13-2008, 08:45 PM
Hey, I'm from Brooklyn, we have booty for all occasions. :o

I'd love to hear all your terminology when you get a chance.:bowdown:

Ondrea
03-14-2008, 06:42 AM
To me, Juliana is figure. I would LOVE for her physique to be what figure is suppossed to look like, but I know that will never happen. She would have been the winner if I was in charge!

KP DIVA
03-14-2008, 01:59 PM
To me, Juliana is figure. I would LOVE for her physique to be what figure is suppossed to look like, but I know that will never happen. She would have been the winner if I was in charge!

I agree with you 100%!!!

JenFerFigure
03-14-2008, 01:59 PM
Hi Andrea! You look so pretty in your avatar!!! wow! :awesome:

JenFerFigure
03-14-2008, 02:02 PM
I think Juliana has a powerful physique -- she looks awesome. I'm a HUGE fan of Gina Aliotti and I really like how she's streamlined her physique for the Arnold. It was quite a noticeable change. She looked phenomenal.

anglicanbeachparty
03-14-2008, 02:46 PM
To me, Juliana is figure. I would LOVE for her physique to be what figure is suppossed to look like, but I know that will never happen. She would have been the winner if I was in charge!

Same here. :respect:

Ondrea
03-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Hi Andrea! You look so pretty in your avatar!!! wow! :awesome:


Awww..you are sweet. Thanks!

dgiz84
03-15-2008, 07:29 PM
I would love to see Juliana switching for bodybuilding, like Beni Lopez she would made some damage!!

Ondrea
03-16-2008, 01:56 AM
She used to be bigger...she could be like Beni and do BB with her old physique. But she is slowly chaning her look to satisfy American figure. She is South American I believe. I want her to stay with figure! We need muscular and hard figure women to look up to!

ibarramedia
03-16-2008, 04:35 PM
Yes. She is Brazilian.

AnneP
03-23-2008, 07:40 PM
Was watching GeneX (http://www.ftvideo.com) pics from the worlds 2005 and remembered this thread. Found a few pics of Juliana when she won 2005 world championships and over all! Wow! She really was bigger then... look at those legs, I love those!

Siouxcountry
03-23-2008, 07:42 PM
And look at those shoulders! :cool:

KP DIVA
03-23-2008, 07:45 PM
Was watching GeneX (http://www.ftvideo.com) pics from the worlds 2005 and remembered this thread. Found a few pics of Juliana when she won 2005 world championships and over all! Wow! She really was bigger then... look at those legs, I love those!

She looks amazing!!!

IRONBULL
03-23-2008, 08:34 PM
Juliana Malacarne...

1. Aspect ratio.
2. Allowed muscularity (that which is appropriate given athlete.)
3. The quality (tone, depth study of muscle required separation)
4. Feed (costumes, hairstyle, the ability to go on stage make-up)
5. Beauty, inner charisma, the ability to attract the eyes of viewers and judges
Julianna - full compliance.
Supplement:
Beautiful, athletic, attractive!!!

KP DIVA
03-23-2008, 10:03 PM
Juliana Malacarne...

1. Aspect ratio.
2. Allowed muscularity (that which is appropriate given athlete.)
3. The quality (tone, depth study of muscle required separation)
4. Feed (costumes, hairstyle, the ability to go on stage make-up)
5. Beauty, inner charisma, the ability to attract the eyes of viewers and judges
Julianna - full compliance.
Supplement:
Beautiful, athletic, attractive!!!


That sums it up in a nutshell!!! Juliana has 100% compliance!!