Siouxcountry.com

---

Go Back   Siouxcountry.com > Discussion > Chat & Introduction
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Chat & Introduction We chat about everything, and anything. Stop on in and introduce yourself.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-22-2011, 03:51 AM
steve147's Avatar
steve147 steve147 is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 445
Default How many people here will save America and quite possibly the world by voting Ron Paul?

How many people here will save America and quite possibly the world by voting Ron Paul?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-22-2011, 11:34 AM
johnstoa's Avatar
johnstoa johnstoa is offline
Alexandra
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vero Beach Florida
Posts: 1,023
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve147 View Post
Thats a big call but you might be right!


How many people here will save America and quite possibly the world by voting Ron Paul?
WHAT? Surely, you are kidding!
__________________
Alexandra Johnston
Every choice we make can either enhance our Spirit or drain it.

“Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabilities is risky but not nearly as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy—the experiences that make us the most vulnerable. Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.” ― Brené Brown
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-22-2011, 01:48 PM
steve147's Avatar
steve147 steve147 is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnstoa View Post
WHAT? Surely, you are kidding!
Really? You mean someone who wants to stop wars, cut spending, feed money into healthcare and education, And most importantly he wants to spend money on America and help Americans first and others countries second.

Why would I be kidding?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-22-2011, 02:48 PM
steve147's Avatar
steve147 steve147 is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 445
Default

Interesting!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-22-2011, 05:05 PM
Becca Staggs's Avatar
Becca Staggs Becca Staggs is online now
Moderator
IFBB Reject - Rebecca Staggs
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Mitten, USA
Twitter: BeccaStaggs
Posts: 9,633
Default

LOL!!! ^^ Steve, I'm not sure anyone thinks this is interesting except for you.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-22-2011, 06:07 PM
steve147's Avatar
steve147 steve147 is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Becca Staggs View Post
LOL!!! ^^ Steve, I'm not sure anyone thinks this is interesting except for you.
You may very well be right!

This is why the world is in so much trouble today. Someone comes along who can fix all the problems we have today and most people don't even know or care about it. I care because I don't want to bring up a child in a world dominated by never ending wars and corporate greed looking for more ways to destroy people. Most of the west are in dept and cannot afford to pay the interest so this affects the next generation after us.

But here comes a real genuine American guy who is not afraid to go against the grain a demand a stop to all wars which is a big factor to American dept and he wants to spend your tax contibutions on things that matter such as health, education and the rebuilding of the economy.

If real issues like this aren't interesting then I don't know what is. Ok I had my rant, time now to go check out the latest youtube viral videos and read all hollywood gossip
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-22-2011, 06:35 PM
sassy69's Avatar
sassy69 sassy69 is offline
NPC Bodybuiler - Jill
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 645
Default

The libertarians have zero foreign policy ... that is scary. This is not 1519 and we're not isolated nations anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-22-2011, 06:50 PM
fbbfanatic fbbfanatic is offline
Matt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mass.
Posts: 574
Default Australian American Election

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve147 View Post
How many people here will save America and quite possibly the world by voting Ron Paul?
Does Ron Paul know he has such a big fan Down Under?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-22-2011, 06:55 PM
Che's Avatar
Che Che is offline
IFBB Pro - Cheryl Davis
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sassy69 View Post
The libertarians have zero foreign policy ... that is scary. This is not 1519 and we're not isolated nations anymore.
yes to every word.
__________________
facebook.com/cdfitmodelpro
twitter.com/cdfitmodelpro


I will not live an unlived life. I will not live in fear of falling or catching fire. - Dawn Markova
Go big, go bold, go hard or go home!

Between hope and victory lies faith.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-22-2011, 07:26 PM
HDPhysiques-Joe's Avatar
HDPhysiques-Joe HDPhysiques-Joe is offline
Photographer/Videographer - Joe Bayer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 2,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve147 View Post
How many people here will save America and quite possibly the world by voting Ron Paul?
Count me in.

Unfortunately, it will probably take at least one more election cycle, more years of devaluation of the currency ($10/gas - it's on the way, folks!), and 1-2 more major wars, couple with another 100% increase in income disparity (avg worker pay vs. avg CEO pay, for instance), before the sheeple pull their heads out of the sand and turn off TMZ, to realize that their country has been destroyed by the 2 party system that caters to the world financial elite's special interests at the expense and erosion of the middle class and our domestic manufacturing base.

Keep believing in the Bush's and Obama's of the world, and the rhetoric and lies, fools. See how much good it's done for ya.
__________________
Forum Savior
Wordsmith Extraordinaire
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-22-2011, 07:29 PM
HDPhysiques-Joe's Avatar
HDPhysiques-Joe HDPhysiques-Joe is offline
Photographer/Videographer - Joe Bayer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 2,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Becca Staggs View Post
LOL!!! ^^ Steve, I'm not sure anyone thinks this is interesting except for you.
Completely wrong. Roughly 20% are behind RP, especially his desire to audit the Fed and Osama BEN BERNANKE, and bring their currency ruining policies to an end.

Unfortunately, RP is given 1/10th the amount of time to speak during debates compared to the "chosen ones" by the Wall Street elite (Romney, Perry, etc...), and the mainstream media barely mentions him, in a clear effort by the establishment to make him an afterthought. But make no mistake, Americans who have woken up to the BS in this country, are solidly behind RP.... the only guy with the balls to stand up against the tyranny that's being ushered in to our country.
__________________
Forum Savior
Wordsmith Extraordinaire
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-22-2011, 07:39 PM
HDPhysiques-Joe's Avatar
HDPhysiques-Joe HDPhysiques-Joe is offline
Photographer/Videographer - Joe Bayer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 2,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sassy69 View Post
The libertarians have zero foreign policy ... that is scary. This is not 1519 and we're not isolated nations anymore.
Wrong. The libertarians have plenty of foreign policy....... GET OUT OF OTHER NATIONS AFFAIRS THAT DON"T CONCERN US.

It's entirely flawed thinking to say they have "no foreign policy". Their foreign policy is smart.... protect American interests, fight only wars that are worth fighting. Wanting to smartly get out of Iraq, Afg, Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc... is SMART policy. We have no business interfering.

You are correct we are not isolated anymore.... which is indeed PART OF THE PROBLEM. When was America at its strongest? It was at it's strongest when we manufactured at HOME, when we had strong AMERICAN companies that supplied American JOBS. Globalism has destroyed not only the US economy, but the world economy as well, and has directly led to the massive income disparity between elite (bankers, CEOs, Oil company board members, etc...) and the average worker. Yes, the fortune 500 companies have greater profits because they now can hire cheap Asian or African labor, and the far right mega wealthy call this "strong growth of American companies".... but in reality, it's been eroding the manufacturing base of the country, eroded our tax base, exploded the number of people requiring gov't assistance, food stamps, etc...

Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot were 100% right in 1992. NAFTA and other "free trade" that extended America's global reach, DID result in a giant sucking sound of jobs leaving our country, and is DIRECTLY resposible for the mess we have today. Isolationism (not completely, but closer to it than the globalism mess we have today) would've been the right call.... yet Clinton, Bush 1&2, and Barry O, have sold out to mega corporations that contributed to their campaigns, and now we have nearly 20% in REAL unemployment, an eroded tax base which leads to massive deficits/debt, resulting in a devalued dollar, resulting in misery for everyone.

Is the country better off now, than it was prior to 1980 when de-regulation of wall street and big business began? (and really accelerated since NAFTA)..... of course not.
__________________
Forum Savior
Wordsmith Extraordinaire
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-22-2011, 09:38 PM
johnstoa's Avatar
johnstoa johnstoa is offline
Alexandra
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vero Beach Florida
Posts: 1,023
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sassy69 View Post
The libertarians have zero foreign policy ... that is scary. This is not 1519 and we're not isolated nations anymore.
So I guess you believe George Bush did? Yeah, OK.
__________________
Alexandra Johnston
Every choice we make can either enhance our Spirit or drain it.

“Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabilities is risky but not nearly as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy—the experiences that make us the most vulnerable. Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.” ― Brené Brown
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-22-2011, 09:43 PM
johnstoa's Avatar
johnstoa johnstoa is offline
Alexandra
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vero Beach Florida
Posts: 1,023
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve147 View Post
Really? You mean someone who wants to stop wars, cut spending, feed money into healthcare and education, And most importantly he wants to spend money on America and help Americans first and others countries second.

Why would I be kidding?
Nope, not gonna bite on this one. I'm not about to turn this thread into what it would ultimately lead to. I am extremely opinionated when it comes to politics, so it is always best that I keep my comments to a minimum.
__________________
Alexandra Johnston
Every choice we make can either enhance our Spirit or drain it.

“Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabilities is risky but not nearly as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy—the experiences that make us the most vulnerable. Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.” ― Brené Brown
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-22-2011, 10:58 PM
sassy69's Avatar
sassy69 sassy69 is offline
NPC Bodybuiler - Jill
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 645
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnstoa View Post
So I guess you believe George Bush did? Yeah, OK.
Its a basic tenet of the libertarian standpoint and scares most people about them. (http://www.lp.org/platform)
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-23-2011, 12:39 AM
AmberDoodle's Avatar
AmberDoodle AmberDoodle is offline
NPC Bikini Competitor - Amber
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 591
Default

Yeah sorry, I'm pro-choice, anti-DOMA, anti-DADT (yes it's been repealed but he thought it was a fine policy), and can't really support anyone who talks about homosexuals in terms of them "impos[ing]" their relationships on others. Frankly I think most people gay or straight impose their relationships on those around them when they talk about being partnered with their loved one and want that relationship recognized by others...or when they make out in public.

So no...your version of a "saved" world is not the same as mine. Do I disagree with a lot of what is going on? Yes. But your solution will not be the same as mine.

But that is why our country is awesome. I can disagree with you, and you with me and no one will get sentenced to death for it.
__________________
Willy Wonka: But Charlie, don't forget what happened to the man who suddenly got everything he always wanted.

Charlie Bucket: What happened?

Willy Wonka: He lived happily ever after.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-23-2011, 01:04 AM
Che's Avatar
Che Che is offline
IFBB Pro - Cheryl Davis
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 541
Default

personally i think RP raises a lot of the right questions but has few of the right answers. also, libertarianism is interesting in theory but impractical (and by impractical i could mean batsh@t crazy) if you follow some of its major tenets through to their logical conclusions and practical applications. like alexandra though, i'm not getting too sucked into this one here
__________________
facebook.com/cdfitmodelpro
twitter.com/cdfitmodelpro


I will not live an unlived life. I will not live in fear of falling or catching fire. - Dawn Markova
Go big, go bold, go hard or go home!

Between hope and victory lies faith.

Last edited by Che : 11-23-2011 at 01:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-23-2011, 01:11 AM
RedOne's Avatar
RedOne RedOne is offline
Ali
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Nerdville
Posts: 2,595
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AmberDoodle View Post
Yeah sorry, I'm pro-choice, anti-DOMA, anti-DADT (yes it's been repealed but he thought it was a fine policy), and can't really support anyone who talks about homosexuals in terms of them "impos[ing]" their relationships on others. Frankly I think most people gay or straight impose their relationships on those around them when they talk about being partnered with their loved one and want that relationship recognized by others...or when they make out in public.

So no...your version of a "saved" world is not the same as mine. Do I disagree with a lot of what is going on? Yes. But your solution will not be the same as mine.

But that is why our country is awesome. I can disagree with you, and you with me and no one will get sentenced to death for it.
well stated!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-23-2011, 01:18 AM
Che's Avatar
Che Che is offline
IFBB Pro - Cheryl Davis
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AmberDoodle View Post
Yeah sorry, I'm pro-choice, anti-DOMA, anti-DADT (yes it's been repealed but he thought it was a fine policy), and can't really support anyone who talks about homosexuals in terms of them "impos[ing]" their relationships on others. Frankly I think most people gay or straight impose their relationships on those around them when they talk about being partnered with their loved one and want that relationship recognized by others...or when they make out in public.

So no...your version of a "saved" world is not the same as mine. Do I disagree with a lot of what is going on? Yes. But your solution will not be the same as mine.

But that is why our country is awesome. I can disagree with you, and you with me and no one will get sentenced to death for it.
Love.
__________________
facebook.com/cdfitmodelpro
twitter.com/cdfitmodelpro


I will not live an unlived life. I will not live in fear of falling or catching fire. - Dawn Markova
Go big, go bold, go hard or go home!

Between hope and victory lies faith.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-23-2011, 01:33 AM
johnstoa's Avatar
johnstoa johnstoa is offline
Alexandra
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vero Beach Florida
Posts: 1,023
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd2480 View Post
personally i think RP raises a lot of the right questions but has few of the right answers. also, libertarianism is interesting in theory but impractical (and by impractical i could mean batsh@t crazy) if you follow some of its major tenets through to their logical conclusions and practical applications. like alexandra though, i'm not getting too sucked into this one here
LOVE THIS!
__________________
Alexandra Johnston
Every choice we make can either enhance our Spirit or drain it.

“Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabilities is risky but not nearly as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy—the experiences that make us the most vulnerable. Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.” ― Brené Brown
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:20 PM.

...

Moderators

Becca Staggs
......Website
Dvsness
LaurenFazio
......Website
MrsFluffyBunny
Ripitupbaby
......Website

Forum Moderators

....

Administrators

Siouxcountry


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.