2008 IFBB EUROPA SUPER SHOW PRO/AM *Full Results Posted*

[Siouxcountry]

Originally Posted by saiyajinali

First I am going to say that I am Debbie B’s guy. Second I am going to say that even though I’m her biggest fan, but I’m also her biggest critic. If she is not on, I’ll be the 1st to tell her she’s not on & I have the scars to prove it LOL… But seriously folks I have been looking at different pics from different sites & I have seen all of the top 4 girls in person with the exception of the newbie Jennifer. And I totally think the judging was off on this one… Nothing personal against Jennifer but she got what I call a “pro debut gift” This is a term I have coined that male & female competitors get when they show up in good or decent shape & the beat out seasoned pros in their first pro show. And a lot of times they don’t deserve it either.. It’s almost like some kind of initiation practice where they try to encourage newbies to compete in the pro ranks if the “bring it” in their first outing. I am trying to be unbiased in my opinions because all 4 of these girls who are top notch athletes by the way, but they all have flaws & weaknesses. And looking at all these flaws & strengths, I would have had the top two placers as Klaudia & Debbie.. It could of went either way between those two. These two represent the more streamlined, muscular, but still feminine look what female bodybuilding should be. They have good muscle on their frames, but not too much. And the conditioning is amazing. I know conditioning isn’t everything, but if this is bodybuilding, a competitor should be rewarded for refining their physique. And you only get this by competing a lot & coming in tight. Every time you get better. Now compare Jennifer to these two girls. Yes she has decent shape, but its not top 5 Olympia shape, & not that much better than the other girls in the top 4, if you know what I mean. Now you look at the refined & conditioned look that Deb & Klaudia has & compare this to Jennifer. There is no comparison.. Now when Jen keeps doing this & dials it in good, my opinion will change & it will be a different story, but at this show she got a gift…
And as for Nicole.. Nicole I hope when you see me in Vegas you don’t deck me LOL(Nicole is a cool girl who doesn’t have the cockiness & arrogance that many bodybuilders have a tendency to have & I like that), but I don’t agree with the way the judges are always putting her over these other girls. Like I said everyone in the top 4 at this show has flaws, & this goes for Nicole too. She has great lines, good caps on her shoulders, great separation in her quads. But she lacks size in her quads & in her overall physique. She has that “runway model gap between her quads” because of a lack of inner thigh thickness that I would never thought I would see in pro bodybuilding. If she could add 5lbs of muscle to her frame I think it would change a lot in a good way.. I was looking at Nicole standing next to Debbie in the relaxed pose in the lineup & I though to myself there is no way in hell Deb should of took fourth to Nicole’s second.. I know Debbie is my girl, but I truly feel like she DOESNT get the respect she deserves from the judging panel... Example, in Tampa they initially didnt even call her out in the 1st round of callouts & they called out 4. For some reason they noticed her after they were comparing the initial four & decided to throw her & Annie R. in the mix, to make six. When they started comparing them, that's when Debbie moved up to spot number three in the finals. but my point is that their initial judgement was to not even look at her..That is an unbiased opinion… I don’t know if the judges need to have a big prayer meeting & discuss some guidelines because the judging is no very standard & I am seeing these girls hopping form one leg to the next like they are playing a sick game of Simon Says because they don’t know what to do & how to come in..
Just my opinion…

Thanks for sharing your opinion here, Saiyajinali!

[AnneP]

Now are also women's scoresheets online in Ifbbpro.com


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[HDPhysiques-Joe]

Originally Posted by cassierose

JanTana Spray tan service is worth the money. I didn't get the JanTana airbrush tan and Protan turned me green! My tan for the show was GREEN on some places but not my hands and feet...it was the Protan reacting in a bad way to my PH balance in my skin.

Don't worry.... I'm not one to say "I told you so...." (or am I? LOL)

Originally Posted by cassierose

I've been taking notes and I'm going to take some time off conests and let my knees rest and try to avoid surgery.

What did ya do to your knees? I don't believe you've told me before...

Originally Posted by cassierose

I have always been more of a bodybuilder at heart, and I put solid muscle on off season. Figure has a VERY VERY bling bling, makeup and artificial look that is not me. I'm a very natural non foo foo kinda of woman. I am considering bodybuilding in the future. We shall see...

Originally Posted by cassierose

I'll post pictures of me with the cars asap!

Looking forward to them!

[Siouxcountry]

Replays of prejudging and finals can be found here...................

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2008...ast_replay.htm

Originally Posted by Siouxcountry

Replays of prejudging and finals can be found here...................

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2008...ast_replay.htm

Cool..I can see the show...I was working my tail off @ the EJM booth...

[cassierose]

Originally Posted by MsGuns

Cassie, i missed meeting you...
Dane and I were looking for you so we (me and you) could meet...

DAMN! I would have loved to meet you. I was wondering if you think I could hold my own as a bodybuilder. I just don't fit at a Figure Competitor, and LOVE to do bodybuilding poses..

[Siouxcountry]

BODYBUILDING

Lightweight - Nicole Ball (2nd), Jennifer Sedia (1st), & Klaudia Larson (3rd)...................



Heavyweight - Kim Perez (2nd), Sherry Smith (1st), & Annie Rivieccio (3rd)...............

[Siouxcountry]

FITNESS

Brenda Santiago (5th), Nicole Duncan (3rd), Tracey Greenwood (1st), Erin Riley (2nd), Bethany Gainey (4th)...................

[Siouxcountry]

FIGURE

Stephanie Togrul-Tulin (5th), Jelena Abbou (3rd), Bernadette Galvan (1st), Hazal Nelson (2nd), Shannon Meteraud (4th)...................

[AnneP]

Some nice backstage pics in Flexonline.. LINK

[AnneP]

A LOT of pics of the show now in Hardfitness.com. Huge thanks JC


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[AnneP]

Team Andro added some final pics (not sure if you need to register to see those?)


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[Fighterbabe]

Originally Posted by AnneP

Team Andro added some final pics (not sure if you need to register to see those?)


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You HAVE TO register if you want to see them...

[Siouxcountry]

Jen Hendershott received this email from Betty Pariso:

I want to relay a story to you that happened this weekend at the Europa Show involving the Pro Fitness ladies.

On Saturday late afternoon one of my NPC Fitness/Figure competitors came to me with tears in her eyes, and told me that she would not be able to compete in the NPC Finals. I asked her why, assuming that she must not be feeling well or something, her answer was that her truck was broken into and her suitcase was stolen with everything she needed to compete. She was competing in both the Figure and Fitness division.

I instantly assured her that we could fix this...not to worry! A moment later I was thinking, oh no, she's in Fitness and doesn't have an outfit or shoes. Just about that time the Pro Fitness ladies were coming off stage...I called them all over and shared with them the situation. The result brought tears to my eyes. They gathered around my NPC gal and acted like "big sisters". They told her not to cry and started sizing her up to see whose suits and fitness outfit might fit her the best. They put their arms around her and took her back to the dressing room to get her outfitted.

Later that evening I saw her just as she was about to go on in the Fitness routine division. She looked great in her outfit and she even had sneakers that fit! With tears in her eyes, she thank me over and over for saving her big night, of course we know it was the Pro Fitness ladies that came to the rescue.

I only know the name of one of the ladies who helped...Traci Redding, but she mentioned that others gave their suits and helped as well, and I want them to know how appreciative I am as well as the NPC competitor.

I would appreciate it if you could post this somewhere to let the ladies know how far a little kindness goes.

Sincerely,
Betty

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229859.0

[Siouxcountry]

Ruth Silverman's Blog

Bodybuilding

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/ruth/?p=135

Figure & Fitness

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/ruth/?p=138

[Siouxcountry]

Body By Dani - Thoughts From The Europa

http://www.bodybuildingweekly.com/vi...ro_figure.html

[Meriza]

Originally Posted by Siouxcountry

Body By Dani - Thoughts From The Europa

http://www.bodybuildingweekly.com/vi...ro_figure.html

Thanks Sioux for finding posting this! That's what I want to bring my very best to all the show I participate in!xoxoxoxoxo

Thanks to Dani for acknowledging my physique!

xoxo

[Siouxcountry]

MDTV

Dave Palumbo & Steve Wennerstrom wrap up women's bodybuilding. You will see the posing routines of the top 3 from both weight classes.............

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/...view/1706/173/

[dallas3]

Question about the Europa, is this second show for 2009 in FL official or just being thrown around as a possiblity?

[Siouxcountry]

One of the best posts I have ever read on any board ever.............

http://www.siouxcountry.com/showthre...6640#post96640