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Old 09-18-2009, 07:51 PM
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September 17, 2009

Would You Bet Against Iris Kyle’s earning her fifth Ms. Olympia crown on September 25 at the Orleans Arena in Las Vegas? Take a look at the accompanying photo and accept that the back view is every bit as precise as the front, and you know you would not. You can sob all you want (and I do) about the need for smaller, symmetrical-style female flexers to flood the pro ranks, but this athlete has got the aesthetics down—plus a whole lotta muscle. A female Flex Wheeler, as we’ve always said, maybe a little more consistent in her conditioning than he was, she is among the very top bodybuilders in the world, period, and the sight of that much muscle perfectly placed and conditioned on a symmetrical X-frame is more than the Olympia panel can resist. Where gender comes in: Flex lost the Olympia three times to someone who had a wider waist than he did, but that’s not likely to happen to Ms. Iris.

Juliette Bergmann notwithstanding, the Olympia has long been a big-woman’s show—and the reason is that the big women who rule the lineups here and at the Ms. International have more than just size to offer. Lenda Murray’s weighed 150 or so at 5’5”. Iris’ bio in the Olympia program for 2008 says 160 at 5’7”. Most of the serious contenders on tap to flex in Vegas this year are old-style-muscle mamas, meaning that, like Iris, they gotta lotta muscle; so the tradition is likely to prevail.

Not that it’s without the realm of possibility that one of the “smaller women” will wow her way into the top six. With Cathy LeFrancois out of the lineup due to an elbow injury, however, it seems less likely.

One of Iris’ greatest intangible strengths is her consistency. She nails it—or close to it—every time. Some of her closest competitors don’t share that quality, which makes predicting what will happen next so darned difficult. Here’s a rundown of the ladies who like to think they’re breathing down Iris’ neck.

Let’s start with Yaxeni Oriquen-Garcia. The ’05 Ms. Olympia and four-time Ms. International is a logical pick for a top-three finish after coming in third at last year’s Olympia and this year’s International. Though she was not at the top of her game at the Ms I, she was good enough—which means she’s due to get it right this time out. Just remember: Yaxeni’s best condition means deep separation but not crazy striations.

Other candidates for a top-three position include Debi Laszewski, runner-up at the International in March, who’ll be making her Olympia debut; Betty Viana-Atkins, second at the ’08 Olympia but sixth at the International; Heather Armbrust, fourth at the Ms. I but 14th at the O; and, last but hardly least, Dayana Cadeau, who finished second behind Iris in three out of the last five Olympia battles.

Add one more name, Lisa Aukland, who sat out the International but has been fourth the past two years at the O after a steady climb, and you can see why I’m not seeing room for any of the symmetry-only gals to break through in Vegas. Lisa was at her very best last weekend at the Atlantic City Pro, where she scored a big win, I can safely predict that if she has to settle for fourth again at the Ms. Olympia—or even fifth—it’ll be because two more (besides Yaxeni) of the above mentioned women brought their game on. I’m betting it’ll be Betty and Dayana—Betty because I just have a feeling, and Dayana because I saw the determination in her eyes when we spoke last summer.

That makes seven prospective top finishers, by the way, and I haven’t even mentioned Betty Pariso (speaking of old-style-muscle mamas). There are 14 athletes on the roster, including Kristy Hawkins and Nicole Ball, who finished behind Aukland in Atlantic City. Only the six finalists earn an automatic invite to the 2010 Olympia.

Here’s my fantasy prognostication for where the chips will fall:

1) Iris Kyle
2) Betty Viana-Atkins
3) Yaxeni Oriquen
4) Dayana Cadeau
5) Lisa Aukland
6) Debi Laszewski
7) Heather Armbrust
Betty Pariso
9) Rosemary Jennings
10) Kristy Hawkins

Isabelle Turell had to pull out at the last minute due to an injury, or I’d have picked her for ninth. The rest of the lineup includes, in alphabetical order, Nicole Ball Tina Chandler and Frankie Gale, all fine flexers who could make the above prediction game irrelevant.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:39 PM
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Iris Kyle has this in the book. If she loses, it will be because she was way off or somebody worked their booty in the off-season.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:29 AM
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I would also see Iris in first place, but at least the pro sport needs more beauty in the top ten.
Even these "symmetrical-style flexers" that are horrible for the real hardcore fans but very well for all others.
Womens pro bodybuilding would be much easier to promote if average men and women (or at least the women and men in fitness studios) could say: "wow, she carries a lot of muscle, but she looks beautiful" or even better "she is really beautiful and her muscles are looking great"
But that is a long way for the athletes and the IFBB pro (and amateur) to go.

And please to all "symmetrical-style flexers": try to keep your beauty - bodybuilding without beauty looses its soul.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:04 PM
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beauty is subjective...

iris is an amazing bodybuilder in my view, she has symmetry, beautiful full round muscles, detailed conditioning and consistency.

she will be hard to beat and IMHO her presentation has been impeccable and attractive (for a woman who is in single digit body fat levels).

she is height/weight in proportion and carries her size very appropriately.

there are going to be many amazing physiques at the show, worthy competitors, but i still think Iris will be the one to beat!
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:36 AM
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I agree with Zoa. I also think that the Arnold showed us that Iris can still tweak and improve. I've heard her say in many interviews that she wants to catch Lenda. I would bet on her taking her 5th this year.
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I would also see Iris in first place, but at least the pro sport needs more beauty in the top ten.
Even these "symmetrical-style flexers" that are horrible for the real hardcore fans but very well for all others.
Womens pro bodybuilding would be much easier to promote if average men and women (or at least the women and men in fitness studios) could say: "wow, she carries a lot of muscle, but she looks beautiful" or even better "she is really beautiful and her muscles are looking great"
But that is a long way for the athletes and the IFBB pro (and amateur) to go.

And please to all "symmetrical-style flexers": try to keep your beauty - bodybuilding without beauty looses its soul.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:36 PM
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I would also see Iris in first place, but at least the pro sport needs more beauty in the top ten.
Even these "symmetrical-style flexers" that are horrible for the real hardcore fans but very well for all others.
Womens pro bodybuilding would be much easier to promote if average men and women (or at least the women and men in fitness studios) could say: "wow, she carries a lot of muscle, but she looks beautiful" or even better "she is really beautiful and her muscles are looking great"
But that is a long way for the athletes and the IFBB pro (and amateur) to go.

And please to all "symmetrical-style flexers": try to keep your beauty - bodybuilding without beauty looses its soul.


hey claus i am new to this so if i misunderstood .. i am sorry

are you talking about facial beauty ? typical female beauty, poise etc for lack of a better word ?
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:08 PM
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hey claus i am new to this so if i misunderstood .. i am sorry

are you talking about facial beauty ? typical female beauty, poise etc for lack of a better word ?
The all around - more feminine look, but I know it is hard to balance this - good mass, good symmetry, good presentation and feminine look (poise, facial beauty, movements)

I know that Iris comes alway in top condition with best shape and great genetics, well balanced symmetry, tiny waist and hips, narrow joints, broad shoulders.
She will is the top favorite for the title.

Her poses and presentations are very good n bodybuilding standards are very good, she knows how to present her mucles and her body.

She has only two weak points - one was used to put her out of the Arnold 08 finals (not fair, because there were other girls with similar signs in the top five(, the other she has concurrents with a more feminine look.
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thanks ........ can't wait for the show !
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Old 09-24-2009, 08:51 PM
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beauty is subjective...

iris is an amazing bodybuilder in my view, she has symmetry, beautiful full round muscles, detailed conditioning and consistency.

she will be hard to beat and IMHO her presentation has been impeccable and attractive (for a woman who is in single digit body fat levels).

she is height/weight in proportion and carries her size very appropriately.

there are going to be many amazing physiques at the show, worthy competitors, but i still think Iris will be the one to beat!

I agree Zoa. Too often I hear this garbage about whether a competitor has beauty, or if she is feminine. People should not confuse femininity with being photogenic. A competitor can be very feminine without being necessarily photogenic and can also be photogenic without being very feminine. When people (predominantly critical men that have never been inside of a gym) speculate on a competitors beauty or femininity what they're really subconciously referring to is whether or not the competitor gives them a hard on.
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I agree Zoa. Too often I hear this garbage about whether a competitor has beauty, or if she is feminine. People should not confuse femininity with being photogenic. A competitor can be very feminine without being necessarily photogenic and can also be photogenic without being very feminine. When people (predominantly critical men that have never been inside of a gym) speculate on a competitors beauty or femininity what they're really subconciously referring to is whether or not the competitor gives them a hard on.
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I agree Zoa. Too often I hear this garbage about whether a competitor has beauty, or if she is feminine. People should not confuse femininity with being photogenic. A competitor can be very feminine without being necessarily photogenic and can also be photogenic without being very feminine. When people (predominantly critical men that have never been inside of a gym) speculate on a competitors beauty or femininity what they're really subconciously referring to is whether or not the competitor gives them a hard on.
What's up my friend Joe??!!

'Feminine' is a socially constructed term with different meanings in every culture....and various opinions depending on each person. I like to think that as bodybuilders we are athletes creating a work of art with our body...we must present it well but we shouldn't be judged "exclusively" on our facial looks.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the line-up this year and I wish each one of the women all the best....
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Hi Zoa, what's it like having 2 Pro Cards?? How are you and Joseph doing? I hope you're both doing very well.

I agree with your take on "femininity". There are many cultural, societal norms,and customs that help to define what is feminine, as well as personal opinions. I would like to think that in a totally athletic and objective setting an athlete can be judged by what he/she brings to the stage (for our purposes we are discussing women), without complicating the process with individual opinions on who is "pretty" or who is "feminine".

I think it's going to be a great show, and I wish all the competitors well.

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What's up my friend Joe??!!

'Feminine' is a socially constructed term with different meanings in every culture....and various opinions depending on each person. I like to think that as bodybuilders we are athletes creating a work of art with our body...we must present it well but we shouldn't be judged "exclusively" on our facial looks.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the line-up this year and I wish each one of the women all the best....
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